Thursday, October 20, 2011

SM ENTERTAINMENT’S UNFAIR TREATMENT TOWARDS SUPER JUNIOR; Just My Thought


1st article:
It seems it’s not only VIPs that are angry with the way their management label favors the girl groups, as several SM Entertainment fandoms recently voiced their concerns on Pann as well.  Many fandoms expressed that they were upset with the way SM favored SNSD and gave them the promotion and push that their other groups never received.
The important thing to note about this Pann is that it is NOT an attack against SNSD.
The post received 45,690 views, 893 recommendations, 429 replies, and was the trending article of the day.  Translation below:
SM fandoms are not angry or pissed off against SNSD.  We’re angry against SM Entertainment for the way they only favor SNSD.  Because of SNSD’s comeback, it seems they totally pushed Super Junior’s follow-up promotions on the backburner.  That in itself is ridiculous, but there’s also the fact that TVXQ, Super Junior, and SHINee have set so many incredible records that SM Entertainment never acknowledged or put out articles in the media for.  But of course, SM will never ever promote another group other than SNSD even if their lives were put on the line.
And to the Sones.  I often see Sones acting like they’re really not being treated like princesses because the girls are always having to perform at several events a day, traveling from Seoul to Pyungtaek and even visiting the emergency room.
Should I refute that?  Super Junior performs at events, SHINee performs at events, f(x) and CSJH perform at events, TVXQ performs at events, the Trax performs at events, and even BoA performs at events.  SNSD is not the only one performing at events.  Why, does it piss you off that your precious girls must perform at these little no-name events and not at concerts?  Do you even know how many singers there are that can’t perform at events even if they dreamed of it?
And you’re seriously saying that traveling from Seoul to Pyungtaek is tiring?  Super Junior travels overseas within just a day for their international concerts.  Seoul to Pyungtaek is NOTHING compared to this.
About going to the ER… It’s not only SNSD, all top stars have been there at least once.  Krystal fainted in the middle of a stage during “Mr. Boogie” while performing at an event.
The three best replies were as follows (warning: heavy profanity):
608 agree, 11 disagree 525 agree, 6 disagree 479 agree, 7 disagree
SM fuckers, you’re selling out Super Junior just so you can promote your little princesses?  You produce Super Junior’s album qualities in absolute shit (not the song, the actual physical production) and make it cost fucking expensive.  SNSD’s album, on the other hand, has the highest fucking quality but costs less than Super Junior.  Just admit that you’ve given up on Super Junior, you fuckers.
Source: Nate Pann
Translated by netizenbuzz.wordpress.com
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2nd article: 
Controversy regarding the unfair treatment Super Junior is receiving from SM Entertainment (especially in comparison to SNSD) is still brewing hot on Korean boards. Recently, a post on Nate Pann received about 205,069 views and made it into the top 10 most viewed/commented post of the week. It received about 2,125 recommendations and 1,227 comments as of October 16th.
The full translation of the post is as follows:
1. Let’s begin with what Lee Soo Man himself thinks of Super Junior (this is taken directly from an interview he had):
“그는 ㅂㅇ 가 일본 진출에 성공한 이후 아시아뿐만 아니라 세계에서 통할 수 있는 최고의 팀을 구상했다. 그러나 자원의 한계 때문에 선택과 집중이 필요했다. 그래서 여러 팀에서 최고를 한 사람씩 뽑아서 메이저리그라고 할 수 있는 단 한 팀을 구성했고, 그것이 ㄷㅂㅅㄱ였다. “여기에 선발되지 않은 팀은 모두 와해될 판이었습니다. 하지만 계약을 했기 때문에 책임져야 했지요. 그래서 그런 팀 중에서 음악도 잘하고 버라이어티쇼도 할 수 있는 팀으로 키운 게 슈퍼주니어였어요. 그들은 살아남기 위해 피눈물나는 노력을 기울였고, 저희도 미안해서 도와주게 됐지요.”
“Lee Soo Man successfully advanced BoA into the Japanese market and began planning the best team that he would be taking not only into Asia, but worldwide. Because of the limits of support, he needed to focus and choose. Out of several different teams, he chose one member from each and brought them together to create a ‘major-league’ team. That team was TVXQ. Lee Soo Man stated, ‘The members that weren’t chosen to be a part of the team were on the verge of disintegration. But because we had already contracted with them, we had to take responsibility. One of the teams was Super Junior, a group we raised to excel in music and variety shows. In order to survive, they had to cry tears of bleed through their efforts. We felt sorry for them, which is why we helped.’”
Source: http://biz.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/10/14/2011101401275.html
So I guess that’s proof that they don’t care what happens to us and that they’re only supporting the group out of sympathy. To SM, it doesn’t matter whether Super Junior does well or not. I feel so bad for our oppas, they have nothing but their fans to trust in a company like that.
It’s always the fans that are promoting their albums for them.
2. SM Entertainment changed Super Junior’s solo concert to an SM Entertainment concert.
Europe had been sending many requests for a Super Junior concert. Right when they were preparing one, SM changed it to a full out SM Entertainment concert.
Peru voted Super Junior as the #1 artist they wanted to see there. Not SM Town, but Super Junior. They had petitioned for a Super Junior concert for some time now.
3. Album quality
SNSD’s album is made out of iron – obviously a lot of work was gone into it. But as for us? Ever since our second album, we’ve been getting nothing but pieces of paper.
But it gets better. I heard that SNSD’s iron album is only $19. Our pieces of paper was $20. Since when did paper become so expensive in Korea?
SM never does anything for us. At first, we were just upset and shocked, but now we’re so used to it. Don’t you think this is too much, though?
4. SM is trying to delay Super Junior Show
5. SM is always re-using sets for Super Junior’s music videos and teasers
6. SM always cuts off Super Junior with ‘etc’ when talking about their company in articles.
For example: “Starting with H.O.T., artists under SM like BoA, TVXQ, SNSD, and etc are receiving much popularity overseas.”
Lee Soo Man also stated, “TVXQ is a group formed by taking the best members out of three idol teams. Super Junior is a group with the rest of those members. Because of that, there was a large difference in skill, which is why they had to grit their teeth to work to become the world’s greatest idols. It’s a result I myself didn’t expect.”
7. Heechul’s SM diss on radio:
“내가 가끔그러거든요.그 회사분들이랑 얘기할떄 아니우리뭐 대만에서 38주 1위하고 뭐 미인아도 지금뭐 18주짼지 몇주짼지 1위래요 이런거#%@#^* 왜  우린왜 기사 많이 안나와요. 따른데 처럼 막 플레이하고 우리도 빵빵해야지 우린 아무것도 안하는줄 알잖아요.그렇게 얘기하면은 회사에서 어떻게 하면 되게 고마운 말이에요. 아이.. 우리는 슈퍼주니어가 그정도하는거는 어느정도 되게 당연하다고 생각하기 떄문에 고런걸로 괜히 호들갑 떨필요 없다고 생각한다.  그래가지고 제가 그러거든요.
YO말만잘해 욕쉬~”
Heechul: “I sometimes mention how we’ve been ranking first in Taiwan for 38 weeks and how Bonamana has been topping for 18 weeks and stuff like that when talking to people in our company and ask why they don’t make articles for us. I asked them to put out a few headlines like other companies do so that people just don’t think we’re doing nothing. When I say things like that, however, they’ll say back, ‘It’s because we think that it’s definite that Super Junior achieves those things. I don’t think it’s necessary to make a big deal out of things like that.’ So I’ll always just say back, ‘Yeah, you’re all talk.’”
8. ELF, the more things like this happen, let’s not forget our roots and continue to protect Super Junior!
“It is not the cry of an immature child. Being a fan means being brave enough to protect what is most precious to you.”
I’d like to make it clear to Sones or fans of other SM groups that we are not hating on SNSD or Sones, we are criticizing the unfair treatment SM is giving Super Junior! Sones, please don’t apologize for something that isn’t your fault.
The three best replies were as follows:
1. 1,413 agree, 54 disagree
“So they made a group that they didn’t even think would do well out of pure sympathy. They made them sleep only 2-3 hours a day and travel to Malaysia, China, and Korea in just a day. They made someone who lost their father three weeks ago stand on stage and sing bright songs. They made an injured person that couldn’t even walk properly drag their legs on stage to sing. They made someone that had just come out of a car accident to go on TV. In such a tragic setting, you forced these kids to go on variety shows, perform at events, made them the talk of misunderstanding and criticism just so you could touch a bit of money. Even if they created laughter on variety shows, worked so hard to the point of fainting, they were only given several hundreds for their work – all members included. Even slaves are treated better than this.”
2. 1,382 agree, 67 disagree
“Super Junior cried tears of blood to reach the position they are at now.”
3. 751 agree, 19 disagree
“How much harder must we work to get some support? Super Junior was able to ride a private jet for their schedules on this Music Core, but it wasn’t provided by the company, but by the broadcast station. Thank you, broadcast station.”
Random reply:
“There’s a reason why Super Junior is so nice to their fans. Everything their company and networks say are different so even though they have to trust them, they don’t trust them all the way. They have nothing but their fans to depend on… Elfs know that, so we take care of each other. Thinking back to all the times that we petitioned together, suffered together, and cried together makes me think that I can’t quit being a fan just yet. Things that other fandoms took three, four years to experience, we had to experience just a thousand days into their debut. We have no where to trust – not the company, not anyone – except the members. The members knew that and were always by our side. The company never gave their support, and the fans, using our own hands, got them the DJ the positions they have now. This post makes me think of the old times where I believed that all we had to do was hold it in… hold it in until the group grows more, until they’re at the very top, to create and rewrite history because we have so much more to show.
Source: Nate Pann
Translated by netizenbuzz.wordpress.com
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Dh baca article kat atas ni? So, for this time, I'm gonna talk about how some artist being treat very unfairly from their own company.


I'm a big fan of Super Junior since I was introduced to them by my twin. Starting from Sorry Sorry, I'm not only be a normal fan but a hardcore fan. Everything related to Super Junior, I will try to never miss out. 


Heechul: “I sometimes mention how we’ve been ranking first in Taiwan for 38 weeks and how Bonamana has been topping for 18 weeks and stuff like that when talking to people in our company and ask why they don’t make articles for us. I asked them to put out a few headlines like other companies do so that people just don’t think we’re doing nothing. When I say things like that, however, they’ll say back, ‘It’s because we think that it’s definite that Super Junior achieves those things. I don’t think it’s necessary to make a big deal out of things like that.’ So I’ll always just say back, ‘Yeah, you’re all talk.’”



Masa baca comment Heechul ni, terus dalam hati kata..WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

Masih ingat lagi isu GDA 2010? The sad memory will never been forgotton. The award which is supposed to be given to SJ but finally it goes to SNSD. Not only E.L.F. terkejut even other fandom also shocked with it. Everyone gave their sympathy to SJ. Even the artist yang hadir pun turut bersimpati kepada SJ yang hanya mampu melihat award yang sepatutnya menjadi milik mereka tetapi diberikan kepada artis lain.

SJ Leader, Leeteuk nyata x mampu menahan kesedihan itu sehingga Heechul terpaksa menenangkannya. Bagi kami, ELF ianya adalah mimpi yang sangat ngeri dan buruk. Melihat SJ members sedih cukup buat hati kami pilu. 

Pelbagai alasan yang diberikan oleh GDA organiser kononnya SNSD layak terima award sebagai pendorong untuk group tu lebih maju. Sehingga rules yang sepatutnya dipatuhi pun langgar je kan?
After so many investigation yang dilakukan oleh fans/reporters  yang sangat curious dengan cara pemarkahan GDA..there are so many lies behind all this. Dari segi album sales count hinggalah rating poll yang dilakukan. Some said, SMent had instructed the GDA chairman to changed the winner from SJ to SNSD. 

See? Nampak sangat dorang memang nak bunuh SJ kan? Malam selepas peristiwa pahit tu berlaku, Leeteuk & Heechul langsung x tido memikirkan hal ni. Kami sebagai fans juga xmampu nak lelapkan mata kerana simpati kepada mereka. 

Kecewa, sedih, terkilan semua bercampur baur apabila segala usaha kami dinafikan oleh SMent. No wonder orang chop Lee SooMan sebagai manusia paling keji sekali. So, I agreed. 

After Heechul temporary leave the group for army service, SJ become like no one they can rely to. Promosi following track A-CHA pun ibarat cam hidup segan mati x mau je. Senang cakap, no promotion for A-CHA except their performance through music show like Music Bank, Music Core & Inkigayo + M!Countdown. Alasan? Sebab SMent hanya tumpukan perhatian kepada comeback SNSD. Is it fair? NO!
Thats why la A-CHA is not doing well. 

SJ 5th album, Mr. Simple is doing great in physical album ranking. It's a great achievement from the boys. Walaupun SMent letak harga setinggi mana sekalipun tetap ada orang beli. Memang nak cekik duit fans. Tetapi, album SNSD yang sah2 costly tu boleh plak jual dengan harga yang murah? WHY? Sebab SMent nak orang semua beli album SNSD. Adilkah?

Marah sangat Marah..tambah2 bila baca this:
“Lee Soo Man successfully advanced BoA into the Japanese market and began planning the best team that he would be taking not only into Asia, but worldwide. Because of the limits of support, he needed to focus and choose. Out of several different teams, he chose one member from each and brought them together to create a ‘major-league’ team. That team was TVXQ. Lee Soo Man stated,The members that weren’t chosen to be a part of the team were on the verge of disintegration. But because we had already contracted with them, we had to take responsibility. One of the teams was Super Junior, a group we raised to excel in music and variety shows. In order to survive, they had to cry tears of bleed through their efforts. We felt sorry for them, which is why we helped.’” 


Simpati? Memang kejam kan? No wonder SJ members sanggup keje bagai nak mati sebab semua ni disebabkan oleh company mereka sendiri. 

SMent bangga sangat dengan TVXQ kononnya sebab dorang ni full package. Hello!!! For your info, yang FULL PACKAGE ni la yang betrayed korang balik. Know why? Sebab korang memang kejam wahai SMent. 

SJ yang korang perlekeh ni juga la yang sentiasa puji SMent ni agensi terbaik. Apa jadi dengan group FULL PACKAGE korang tu? Tinggal 2 orang je kan? kan? Itu pun xfaham bahasa lagi. Nasib la SJ members ni memang tolerate orangnya. Kalo tidak, xtahu la nak jadi apa ngan korang. 

Sebab SJ fikir risiko dan sangat sayang kerjaya dan fans la kenapa mereka masih setia dan bertahan dengan SMent. 

After the interview being spread in internet..ramai yang marah tentang komen SooMan ni.
Not only that, Leeteuk's twitter update yesterday[18/10/2011] also got a hidden meaning :

내일죽을것처럼 늘 열심히 최선다하는삶을 살아가자!우리직업은팬들대중들을사랑만받으면되지 그것보다 더큰행복은없다고 본다 다른사랑나도바라지않는다
Let’s live a life doing the best as if I’m going to die tomorrow! Our job is to get loved from the audience and fans, I don’t think there is anything else to it. I’m not even expecting any other kinds of love.
Source: @special1004

Translated by: @TwELFs


Sounds like he already gave up with the company's love toward the group. 
So, I said, "never mind...just let E.L.F and audience love the group rather than your own company and it's much more worth it.

Pujuk juga hati ni untuk sabar je. But I will never stop to fight for them. Will always try my best to be their protector. 
The best words to encourage me and E.L.F as well as SJ itself: 
even if the road we walk is barren,
we are in the end, super junior
THE LAST MAN STANDING

*This is my thought. If you read and hate it...just leave this entry. No need to comment. If you wanna share your thought, feel free to comment. I'm not against SNSD or TVXQ..only to SMENT.
I'm looking forward to this year GDA. Would they be fair to the artist. Lets see!

When TVXQ shot their music video for O overseas, they didn’t even get permission to film at a location so they had to constantly be on the run.  Staffs didn’t even go because of it.

4 comments:

  1. seriously..crying reading your post..so sad Sis..really damn SM! kalo sayangkan sgt SNSD tu,lepaskan yg lain..tgk camne nanti SM boleh survive!memang sakit ati..but,i know Super Junior oppa really grateful to SM,but,SM take advantage on it..poor SuJu..!they really should deserved better!

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  2. Great post. My tears has been flowing knowing that SJ fans really taking care of their idol. I'm not a fan of SJ but I really hope they'll be treated better from SM.

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  3. hmm.. kesian suju..
    npew diorang wt suju mcm ny??

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  4. But to be honest Big Bang punya nasib tak seberat SuJu because Big Bang di hiatus kan dan 2ne1 dilebihkan pada tahun 2011 sebab kes Daesung accident tu. And then kes GD terlibat dengan drug case. But Super Junior is.. i don't even know what to say. SM mcm dah lost hope dengan SuJu maybe ? I'm not a SuJu fan though but I felt sorry for them. Oh yeah. And some say and many people agree that SM macam dah tak hiraukan SuJu sebab time tu tengah prepare untuk Exo punya debut plus SNSD punya comeback. But SuJu is not the only in the company who is suffering from masalah berat sebelah. FX pun sama jugak. Four years I repeat FOUR YEARS FX DEBUT SAMPAI SEKARANG TAK ADA FAN NAME. I was like, what the hell ????? And video-video FX pulak macam low budget and bertujuan untuk save cost. Tbh I'm not an SM stan AT ALL. But I really do support Shinee, FX, Boa, J-Min and SuJu. But although I minat hampir semua artis SM but I still can't consider myself as an SM stan cuz I don't like SNSD that much an Exo pulak memang saya tak minat langsung besides Exo-M. Oh ya. And SuJu-M punya promotion haritu pun hambar. SANGAT SANGAT HAMBAR ! Kecewa sangat. Kalau dah macam ni, better SuJu carik agency lain je. Company je yang bertukar. But fans akan kekal setia.

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